Gary Roberts

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Reikishin
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It is not correct to treat me like shit for talking to you, in your Contact the Artists thread about your website's technical difficulties. Suggesting that I instead use official channels? Now that would have been an appropriate reaction.
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ROBERTS
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Whatever people...Update nazi was used as one would use grammar nazi..or Soup Nazi..never saw much Seinfeld eh? Guess not.
But do not EVER assume you know what I know..you don't. I grew up in Florida during the height of the space program. Met plenty of real live nazis. When I was in my 30's, I managed an electronics business for 10 years for a guy who proudly kept his framed autographed B&W 8x10 in his desk drawer..of him as a wee lad, in full HitlerJugend uniform, sitting right on adolphs' knee. His father had been a vice chancelor. His wife RAN Lufthansa-N. America. I've lived in Czech for over 3 years now, and have just watched real life Ukraine Nazis.(they have a VERY active Nazi party left over from the days they joined the SS against Russia) Overthrow the legal government and start a shooting war..with US help and financing.
Don't ever presume to know what i know. I've been a LOT of places in 60 years, and I'm not done yet.
ShadowKing
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Ah thanks for clarifying, never heard "Update Nazi" before and I assumed you just miss-worded it. I cant help but wonder if so much of your time that you've spent around Nazi's hasn't rubbed off on your forum policies lol I wonder if you've not become "The Forum Nazi" (again just teasing)

Also I have the Seinfeld box-set. Funny stuff.

Kramer- How can I possibly thank you?
ROBERTS- You are the only one who understands me.
Kramer- You suffer for your comics.
ROBERTS- Yes that is right.
Kramer- You demand perfection from yourself, from your comics.
ROBERTS- How can I tolerate any less from my customer?
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I guess i have the problem of having been TOO many places and seen far TOO many things...the world I am from is very dark. A place most people think only exists in some fiction paperback..
Take for instance what we're doing here..having a conversation on a website dedicated to art and comics portraying what? When I first began doing this sort of material in public, you could do 5 to 10 in Federal in the US for it. The DoJ used a specific list of acts they considered obscenity, and TOP of that list was bondage and f@cking combined. The very few who dared go there were essentially a criminal underground. Very few dared go there, and frankly its how I made such a huge hit (and fortune) between 2000-2003 and became a global name..I dared go there when so few would. But it got me a LOT of unwanted attention and persecution..which is mainly why I now live peacefully in Europe.
Of course now that censorship has been given over to the banks, and obscenity prosecution is almost impossible..but this lighthearted frivilous atmosphere we NOW enjoy was only recently the norm.
So I apologize if my darkness leaks out on occasion. It's just part of me.
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fernandofan
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ROBERTS wrote: Of course now that censorship has been given over to the banks, and obscenity prosecution is almost impossible..but this lighthearted frivilous atmosphere we NOW enjoy was only recently the norm.
So, I am aware of how financial institutions were strong armed into being restrictive about who they could deal with (ie- the documentary Graphic Sexual Horror) and I know you have shared before how the Bush Administration tied bdsm art to anti-terrorism policies, but you just said that obscenity prosecution is almost impossible ---how so? Is bdsm artwork covered under the US First Amendment? Please explain further.
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Bush/Ashcroft spent millions on prosecutions against porn producers..having formed a special DoJ task force and funding it generously..but the results were to them, disappointing..they failed 9 out of 10 times to convict, even after choosing ultra conservative venues and hand picking federal jurors. some DID do time, but overall the Ashcroft War on Porn was a huge failure costing huge money for relative nothing.

an anti "Human Trafficking" conference was gathered in Florida, hosted by Jeb Bush and his AG Kathy Harris...featuring speakers of very fierce extreme Right Wing ideaology who all condemned all pornography and declared that all women performing in porn were in fact Sex Slaves. I kid you not. The absolute KEY statements however were in connecting porn to terrorism. It was declared in several speeches (carried live on a W. Palm Beach radio station I personally listened to) that all VIOLENT pornography involving any sort of bondage or anything which appeared involuntary, was in fact an ACT OF TERRORISM. this statement was made by several public officials not to be taken lightly.

This was adopted as POLICY by the Bush/Ashcroft people, DoJ, and Homeland Security.

POLICY has nothing to do with LAW, or Constitutionality. it is now quite common to have policy override law and constitution every day. This is the roots of the program now known as "Choke Point"..to cut off the ability of legal lawful businesses and individuals to make any money in activities that were against Policy.

BDSM porn was declared as Terrorism..the Banks were threatened with prosecution under the Patriot Act, and thousands went out of business overnight, including several big banks and multi million dollar billing companies. This policy has NOT been revoked and continues to this day.
the only reason we are here now is Europe..some don't fully agree. After my ordeals with these Nazis, I said f@ck them and left..As soon as I gain permanent residency in Czech, the Embassy will recieve my US Passport and my statement of rejection of my citizenship.

the First Ammendment is no defense in todays' environment. I have followed several Federal cases where a judge has disallowed any mention of the Constitution, and openly stated such on the record. If you, or ANY American, thinks you have any protection in the Bill of Rights, you are wrong, VERY wrong. That was legislated completely out of existance by Patriot Act, Military Commissions Act, warner Defense Act, etc etc etc...up until the new abomination, the Freedom Act. It's orwellian beyond comedy, and I refuse to be subject to such fascist ideas.

Obscenity is just old hat and proven to be a loser in court. So the DoJ rarely if ever goes after that. It's not a legal definition, it's again a Policy decision. There are better tools now involving internet commerce and terrorism which under the new flood of draconian laws, simply sidesteps all the Constitutional safeguards and throws you in jail on the mention of a magic word. History has many such magic words.."Heretic"..."Witch".."Jew"...I will not be subject to such outrageous fascist policies. "Terrorist" is the new Magic Word..you should take note of how much you hear it used. And against who..
ShadowKing
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Re: Gary Roberts

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Hey thanks for apologizing for earlier, I wasn't really expecting you to, to be honest, you surprised me. In turn let me apologize for giving you a hard time (even if it was in jest). I just felt for, Reikishin. Cant be easy to get a tongue-lashing from someone who's work you enjoy so much.

And let me also go on to thank you. Not just for fighting against ridiculous moral high ground lemmings who attempt to rule us with their misguided ideas (You used the word "ignorant" before and that would fit here too I think). But for creating fantastic artwork I very much enjoy while doing it.

Without trying to go too far off subject here the principles at play remind me of those same lemmings who are also against music, video games, etc. It just all seems similar to me. My point is if they are all linked then studies have shown that (at least for games) on-top of having no corrupting effects they can also be therapeutic. That disproves anything people might say against your art, IF I'm right about the connection.
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Well, in a way you're on target, but those people who you speak of, the zealots and fundamentalist tight asses, are mostly lower level operatives when it comes to official government or law enforcement. They are the easily employed radicals who are invariably petty little people given far too much power by the upper level in order to enact a higher unspoken policy.

If you think that the President cares what sort of pictures you look at to get a thrill, forget it. Not on his radar. Neither the Congress..it doesn't put a dime in their pockets. They don't care what porn you look at, their party habits make the wildest shit we see here look like sunday school.

What this is now, is strictly a control mechanism..it is holding limits on how big this can get financially. Once porn hit the internet in the '90s, the dot-com boom exploded and all the big money in America and the western world suddenly didn't like the highly rigged commodities markets like oil and metals, and bailed out to go invest in this new world that had nothing but blue sky above it and seemingly unlimited worldwide growth potential. The estimated value of porn in America in sales as of 2000 was almost 10 BILLION dollars and growing, and investment money was pouring into new websites, video production studios, new billing companies were sprouting like weeds and the banks were simply giddy to hand out merch accounts with no controls at 10 cents a transaction and 3.5%..it was like the California Gold Rush worldwide online. People everywhere were becoming overnight millionaires. Freedom was running wild.
First thing the Justice Department did was crash the markets deliberately. they destroyed NASDAQ overnight and went after every company with huge buy ins of their IPO and charged about everyone with fraud. Since my studios are always at my home, I had a TV on a news channel and watched the DoJ rep stand at a press conference and announce this openly..that they were going to crash the tech markets with fraud investigations. not many people are watching TV at 2pm on a weekday, so people think I made it up. I did not.
This did kinda work for awhile..a lot of internet companies folded and a LOT of investment money left town..but it wasn't the perfect answer. Porn was still growing and making billions, and one of the biggest categories was BDSM, especially sites like mine and a few housand others which featured "non consentual" bound sex..rayp. This got so big that some of the highest dollar sites were exactly this subject..mine made a lot of money but I'm really a sub-genre..comics. The real live girls were the real draw, so you had sites like InSex, Kink.com, FuckingDungeon, many more, who featured scenes that looked like kidnapped prisoners being raypd. It got huge. Peter Ackworth, who began shooting in his apartment living room with bedsheet backdrops, in a mere 3 years outright bought for cash the San Francisco Armory building for $15 Million bucks and put Kink.Com permanently into that old military building. Billing companies and banks were flush with cash and happy to hand out more accounts for a signature and $50.
All this money and prosperity running wild was still a very big worry to the guys up top in the major brokerage houses and Fed Reserve system..unlike the gold and oil markets, they had no control over THIS boom at all..and if you think those guys are not concerned with a thing which suddenly becomes worth billions in a few short years, think again. They were losing sleep.

So to address the issue: The big issue with BDSM porn at the upper level has nothing to do with morality or caring what corruptions you enjoy. Its about money and power and control, always. Those petty zealots who become anti-porn crusaders in law enforcement and other government positions are simply useful idiots to make the big picture a reality for the upper level Owners of America who really drive that bus.
ShadowKing
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What do you propose could be done about it?
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ROBERTS
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Nothing. It's why I left the country.

After losing 3 legal businesses due to cancelled billing, the loss of a big house in Palm Beach and 80 acre Colorado ranch, year after year of IRS audits and extortion in the tens of thousands of dollars, surveillance night n day including helicopters and hovering drones, having my girlfriend detained and jailed for 3 days by immigration and DHS on arrival at Atlanta, and finding myself blacklisted for any new billing services in the US (I can't even get PayPal),,what do you think?

Your political system is now so corrupted and owned by the trillion dollar corporate powers of the world, nothing short of a violent armed revolution will have any hope of driving out these devils. Unfortunately, not many Americans even believe this is so..they still think their vote matters and they'll go vote for a savior next time. That's pretty sad. Most just call me a paranoid conspiracy nut who listens to too much talk radio, that i should just relax and enjoy life and nobody is after you and you're not on the List. Unfortunately I know different.

Eventually it will collapse under the weight of its own corruption, but i don't have enough years left to wait for that..I'm done, I'm going to watch from a safe distance thank you. I hope I don't get another computer attacked while explaining this, I've had 5 blown up while telling the truth about the US. They really don't like me.
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