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leoma02134 wrote:you have to use a tablet if you are serious about the business.
line arts are the base of all comics style drawing, the vector-based drawing never looks as good due to lack of line weight.
you also need a tablet to color your work if you wish it is done professionally.
vector-based graphic for comics drawing is a dead end, a failure of investment of your time.
Oh man, first of all I’m very serious about the business. And, you seem to have misunderstood my disclosure of been a corelstrator to imply I'm opposed to those using graphic tablet. NO! I am not, and If you read my intro very well, I stated that I’m already adapted to mouse for drawing for years.

The second and the last time I handled a tablet, I couldn't draw anything because not only did it felt awkward but anything I tried to draw just going off sync with my mind. It was an Huayon tablet someone dropped to do some artworks for him as he also offered it for sale. Eventually I had to resort back to my mouse which was after I came to the conclusion that it would definitely take me a huge amount of time to re-learn using a tablet as I once used (an obsolete Wacom model).

Secondly, you’ll have to agree with me on the fact that using a tablet or not has no actual bearing on comic line-arts for as long as the story is compelling or worth the read. I don't like anime/manga artstyle, but they've got stories gripping enough to land millions of fans. Besides, artworks were made and comics were drawn long before the advent of digitizers (graphic tablets).

I could if I want the outlines of my final artworks to appear much pronounced because the software provides a Corelstrator an easy way to do so with varying degree of thickness. In fact there are outlines options called 'Artistic Media Tools' which when applied on an drawing will convert a drawing to look as if it was drawn on a tablet with varying line weight and strokes. For a long time I wrestled with the thoughts of which of these available outline thickness and styles to settle for as a standard for my comics on DoFantasy. It was tough decision as I decided to use the linear defalt I've always used.

To me...it’s all about what one can use and his mastery of it.

An unskilled person is one who complains about lack of tools.

As far as coloring goes, I can tell you that there are great digital artists/colorist who still use mouse to produce fanastically colored artworks.

And finally, if I may say....you made mention of the word 'professionally', well there are lots of teenagers who relies so much on a wide range of FILTERS from photo apps to treat, touch, beautify and enhance their photos just as their are those who utilize specially-made stylus for/on their iPad and Samsung tablets to create good artworks, mostly for fun or as an hobby, but does doing all of that alone qualifies them as a professional photo editor/pixel manipulator or digital artist, just as the multitude of them all over social network platorms like to believe ?
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In my opinion, professional means you doing it for living. it doesn't matter what tools you are using as long as that trade is able to earn enough money to keep your life going.

a tablet is not a tool to improve the quality of your works, I am sure there is a lot of artists who could do line-art and coloring just as good with only the mouse if given them unlimited time. but if you want to become a professional, you have to balance between the quality and cost of your work. a tablet is a time-saving tool that will greatly boost your efficiency and efficiency make an artist professional.

I don't think people really care much about the story for a BDSM comics. Fernando is the most popular artist in Dofantasy but his stories are mediocre at the best. the artwork extremely outweighs the story in the BDSM comics industry.

name a Dofantasy artist that stood out purely for their story.
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leoma02134 wrote:In my opinion, professional means you doing it for living. it doesn't matter what tools you are using as long as that trade is able to earn enough money to keep your life going.

a tablet is not a tool to improve the quality of your works, I am sure there is a lot of artists who could do line-art and coloring just as good with only the mouse if given them unlimited time. but if you want to become a professional, you have to balance between the quality and cost of your work. a tablet is a time-saving tool that will greatly boost your efficiency and efficiency make an artist professional.

I don't think people really care much about the story for a BDSM comics. Fernando is the most popular artist in Dofantasy but his stories are mediocre at the best. the artwork extremely outweighs the story in the BDSM comics industry.

name a Dofantasy artist that stood out purely for their story.
I don’t want to stress this further but all in all, I agree with some of the point you laid out. I’ll get a tablet when I’m ready to transit. For now I’ll make do with what’s readily available. As for a DoF artist who stands out for their story, I’ve been under the impression that many of them had their works written by other writers. Just as it is in the non-BDSM comic industry eg Marvel & DC to mention a few. It can be entirely cumbersome a task to have everything done by one person. Wish I had a writer as a partner to assist in stretching and developing some of my stories into scriptable format.

Cheers.
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skarab wrote: May I ask, what makes an excellent BDSM comic so good, the artwork or the story ?
I check porn comics for the porn first. If I do not like the art style of a comic/artist then I will never buy it. All the best comics here have ''shallow" stories. Have a look at Templeton for example, which I'm sure the majority here will say he is one the best at Dofantasy. His comics are great and the plots are not complex at all. That's what make them great as you only have a limited amount of pages to draw each scenes, you can focus on the porn/perversity and show plenty of it with details.

A good example to illustrate the balance porn/story are the series 'Prison Horror Story 'or the recent 'Uprising in West Africa' update from Predondo. They both started with simple plots and great BDSM scenes, and then the artist decided the stretch the scenarios which deserved the quality of the series as the comics spent more and more pages explaining what is happening before and after the BDSM scenes instead of showing it. They both ended with shallow porn I think when you compare the last chapters to the first ones. Predondo's best comics were his first ones when the plot were simple which gave plenty of space for the porn. I know a few readers here will agree.
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imarabbit wrote:
skarab wrote: May I ask, what makes an excellent BDSM comic so good, the artwork or the story ?
I check porn comics for the porn first. If I do not like the art style of a comic/artist then I will never buy it. All the best comics here have ''shallow" stories. Have a look at Templeton for example, which I'm sure the majority here will say he is one the best at Dofantasy. His comics are great and the plots are not complex at all. That's what make them great as you only have a limited amount of pages to draw each scenes, you can focus on the porn/perversity and show plenty of it with details.

A good example to illustrate the balance porn/story are the series 'Prison Horror Story 'or the recent 'Uprising in West Africa' update from Predondo. They both started with simple plots and great BDSM scenes, and then the artist decided the stretch the scenarios which deserved the quality of the series as the comics spent more and more pages explaining what is happening before and after the BDSM scenes instead of showing it. They both ended with shallow porn I think when you compare the last chapters to the first ones. Predondo's best comics were his first ones when the plot were simple which gave plenty of space for the porn. I know a few readers here will agree.
Honestly, I agree with what you and Leo have pointed out - more emphasis should be on making artworks look as superb as possible regardless of how hogwash the storyline may be. I could remember in my teenage years going to the only available magazine in our area to get comics with the little cash saved up, I check for the comics with the best action drawings and excellent color rendering. So I agree.

However if you care to dig into the comic catalogue of DoFantasy past publications, you will notice that DoFantasy in it early rise also had tons of production with ridiculous artworks just look up the SICK archives, but what’s captivating in them all are the BDSM elements featured in them, the shock value, our mind overlooked the grotesque and amateurish drawings and delved our thoughts into the fantasy of relishing the agony the damsel is been subjected to.

Great respect to Fernando and Cagri but their magnificent artworks today is not the same as it was a decade ago, their drawing and coloring has evolved over the years, can we compare Fernando’s drawings in ‘A Hike To Hell’ with ‘Total Control 3’ ? or Cagri’s ‘Game Over’ with ‘Assylum-X’ ? In fact I admire Cagri so much for been an artist who inspirer in the way his artwork has greatly improved (drawing and coloring). But we loved their old works not because of their artworks which are now so advanced today but because of the gripping stories they present as far as BDSM fantasy is concerned.

Without underplaying the importance of excellent artwork rendition, I still maintain the position that a good story far outscore great arts in BDSM comic world since this isn’t Spiderman or TMNT or Transformer or Betty Page comics where the better the artworks the better the sales.

Geoff Merrick stories are graciously wonderful and powerful, which is why I tend to believe sustains the attraction to have loyal fans, no matter how unrealistic or unprofessional any artist renders his story work.

I am of the opinion that one must strike a balance between superb artworks and profound stories, rather than just focusing on making an artwork as splendid as possible while caring less on how ludicrous the story may be.

As an individual, I dare say.... fantasy asides, BDSM is real, not just in the sense of unconventional sexuality we all understand it to be as consensual thing, but as it manifest in many other forms in life which many people are not cognizant of, the kind of stories I want to bring forth here would be based on many realistic happenings were BDSM also present itself without been identified as one.

For instance, where I come from, there is a local charm (juju science) called àmúdó that makes a lady become submissive in a zombie-like manner (no joke) in an instant just by been touched with the ring where the juju is made into.

Permit me to digress a little bit by explaining somethings in order to make a point. She will be under the command of the amudo ring user who touched her with it, and once the user is done having intercourse with her, a drop of Èpò liquid (palm oil) on the finger is to contact her tongue, then only can the power of the charm be neutralized and she recovers her sense back.

Based on the research I’ve personally conducted carefully and scientifically I figured that our Yoruba ancestors invented this juju to be only used in a situation where a guy has been jilted by female lover who turns out to have just been faking her love for him while she spends his money while continue to refuse/deny him sex, using it as a powerplay or leverage to demand, or what we all understood today as ‘Gold-Diggers’. That’s only when someone can use the ring-based juju charm but all the while I have heard about it usage and have met those who have claimed to have used it, it has always been for the wrong purpose which isn’t related to what it was originally meant for, which is how I got to learn from the juju-makers (mystagogues) during my past investigation on this and many other stuffs that all of those who use it negatively and selfishly are all bound to suffer the repercussion, because what they do is to use the juju on damsels who have turned them down, and or have told them she isn’t interested in them, which to me is pure r@ape in the light of modern law.

Now, for a long time coming, I’ve been developing a BDSM story where I want to weave this amudo juju into, in a way that it will be so interesting, realistic, revealing and at the same time convincing, without shedding off the necessary dosage of BDSM elements that makes every DoFantasy fans embrace DoFantasy.com.

If I can tell a BDSM story with so much profoundness, do you think it matters much if the art is great or not ?

I’m asking in earnest.
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Some great scenes and kind of you to share.

Always nice to see nipple rings
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Cthulhu5 wrote:Some great scenes and kind of you to share.

Always nice to see nipple rings
Your kind remark is appreciated.

Watch out for more artworks soon.
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