GROUP X part 2 by CELESTIN IS HERE! HOT STORY BY NAJ!

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Bego
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GROUP X part 2 by CELESTIN IS HERE! HOT STORY BY NAJ!

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THINGS GO FROM BAD TO WORSE IN VICTORIA’S WORLD WHEN THE NEFARIOUS GROUP X CAPTURES HER LESBIAN LOVER AND FORCES HER LOVER TO f@ck AND SUFFER!

EVEN AS VICTORIA TRIES TO BRING DOWN THE SEX SLAVERS, THE ORGANIZATION HAS SINISTER PLANS FOR HER! WHAT WILL HAPPEN TO VICTORIA AND EMILY?



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I love it Celestin & Naj, well done!

I love the way the framing is done. A slow simmer at first and then the frantic run into the abrupt stop. The way the fetish clothing and predicaments are rendered is like nothing else I've come across.

Thank you for making this excellent second installment and damn you!

Now the waiting for the next part will be so much more difficult :234

Cheers,

QQ2
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Holy crap this issue was hot. I don't even mind that 1/3 of it was a flashback (the hottest part IMO)

I think I'm in love with the second dominatrix character. Who I don't think was named.

Please double down on the fetish imagery and fashion.

spoilers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I really hope we see Victoria Leashed and Lashed in part 3. I can't wait for MX to get her hands on her.

Was really hoping we could have seen Brenda's recapture, would have been nice to see her eyes filled with fear as GX came back for her just after Victoria said she'd protect her. I know you only have so many pages :(

I hope Lydia isn't dead. I always thought Lance would keep her and put her against the redhead we saw in #1. "Whoever sucks my cock the best gets to have it in their pussy next. Loser gets punished." That kind of scenario.

I only thing I found jarring was Brenda tied up in the van. Seamed a little outlandish she'd be transported that way. It felt like something out of a Pernando/Fernando comic. I always saw your comics as a little more grounded if that makes any sense. Maybe I'm overthinking it.

If anything Naj you certainly get my imagination going.

Keep up the amazing comics!!!!!

Thank you!
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I'm certainly relieved to hear that the two of you found this comic met all the marks you were hoping for. It's hard to meet such exalted expectations, but I'm glad we met the mark.

Spoiler warning I suppose for those who haven't read it, so reader beware.








I'm not entirely sure you would want Lance anywhere near the girls. He's a... bit violent... and gets off on that.

As far as Brenda near the end, I'll start by saying that some decisions were mine, some were Celestin's. Some I fight for, some I don't. The flashback sequence at the beginning was almost entirely Celestin's design. I just told him to make it as hard as possible and gave some suggestions, but my direction comprised about a sentence, so I give him full credit there. I find it's more interesting to work with what one is given rather than attempt to tightly control the narrative, and Celestin makes some really good decisions that I didn't even think of.

That said, Brenda in the van was also his decision. There were bigger issues with that sequence than Brenda being present that I had to make repeated requests to have changed, so that only caught my attention when I was putting in dialogues after Celestin's entire process had been completed. There are problems with it to be sure, but I don't consider them too fundamentally flawed.

Now that it's been "published," I can reveal that the last minute problem that delayed release was I was going over one final check over and realized that, in the Lance/Emily sequence at the end, Emily didn't have any nipple rings which is a big, big problem. But we got it fixed.

Only afterwards did I realize I forgot to add tails to word balloons in one page. D'oh!

Anyway. Glad you two enjoyed it, and I hope that others find it enjoyable as well! :22
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[q]I'm certainly relieved to hear that the two of you found this comic met all the marks you were hoping for.[/q]

Man did you ever. You mentioned low on fetish depiction but I have to say that scene with the gasmask breathplay was like was super super hot.
It also gave me like the most confused boner ever so I really second surrenderdorathy's opinion that I hope she's still alive. (How awesome would a re-capture scene with her be)

But I'm not trying the drag spoilers out of you, just lavish more praise on that.
And on Celestin for the flashback scene's, those really captured why she was afraid.
(though personally I was hoping for a bit more latex as that is what seems part of what makes this so special to me, but then that's just me hoping for more of an already fantastic thing)

Anyway totally unrelated question but... as an author how do you receive feedback on how your work is received.
Surely there are other channels than just us forum fan boy/girl-s
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No, this is pretty much my only source of feedback. I have a few others that I touch bases with about once in a while, but on a scene by scene basis I just have to go with my gut and hope it works out.

*shrug*
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Thank you for offering that insight.
(and thank you gut for those wonderfully deviant insights ;) )

I can image that this type (or lack there of) feedback loop makes publishing doubly nerve wrecking so thanks for persisting with it.

cheers :22
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Thank you for that insight Naj also thank you for communicating with your fans in general. Lot of creators don't seam to bother.

It made me chuckle to read qq2 is as infatuated by latex as much as I am. It really is puzzling that there isn't more fetish fashion imagery in dofantasy comics, at least in the ones I've read. I really hope Naj/Cel double down on that.

qq2 if you were comfortable with this comic then I am 90% sure you will be ok with anything that happens in Objection Overruled if you haven't already read it. I'm sorry to keep mentioning it but I simply can't recommend that comic enough. I also strongly recommended missing in Shanghai. I'm still not sure if you'd be able to handle A tale of Chinese Slavery but, it has some very strong fetish imagery.
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You have definitely convinced me surrenderdorathy, I love Objection Overruled.
The uniform/dress aesthetic in particular is great.

I found Group X the be stronger from a psychological / inventive perspective but the fetishist loves Objection Overruled
(with psychological, I mean the fact that it's not just overpowering but Mistress X "inviting" her to don the uniform.
The uniform itself, or the breathplay are examples of what I would consider inventive )

As for more fetish fashion imagery, from what I understand with regular porn the trouble with that type of clothing is that it's expensive to acquire, almost always model specific and more difficult to shoot with. That's why good quality fetish movies in regular mainstream porn are rare*.
Further more most people that like bondage in fetish wear also like bondage without it so it's a lot of extra expense for a small community.

I always assumed that this, to a degree, also holds true for DoFantasy and thus for the materials they create.
Coming up with creative, good looking, realistic, fetish outfits is hard and there are, few(er) reference models.
So it takes more time -> cost more money.
A story with a lot of fetish in it would likely have a lower sex to content ratio likely making it less popular with the larger DoFantasy demographic in retrun for a very small reward a.k.a the few people with tastes like you or me.
(now that I am writing this I wouldn't be at all surprised if this if one of the factors for why the scene in the van is done the way it is or why the recount of the slave in the first story features no fetish gear)

This is of course all speculation on my part. @Naj or anyone involved in the creative concept wanting to chip in?)

-QQ2


* Gwen Media used to be really good for this. The then owner was also the owner of Whiplash Clothing. Essentially the movies doubled ascommercials for his products. You can actually quite clearly see when he passed away and ownership of both labels changed
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As far as I'm aware, we creatives are paid by concrete amounts. $X per page regardless of time spent for artists. I had asked Bego how much she'd pay, and she gave me a starting amount, but I don't remember and didn't have the patience to try to draw my own comic, anyway.

From the writer perspective, I'm paid per word. This tends to be why anything I write / ghostwrite are very text heavy because I'm paid more if I produce more words. I remember when Nuria was still around that she was surprised by the total amount when I'd invoiced her at first until she took a look at what I'd produced and realized there was a lot to it.

For some of the stuff I ghost write on bdsmartwork.com, it used to be a short sentence or two descriptor to the images. Now it's more like a 500 word mini-essay per story. No idea how that's going over, but it's much longer than it used to be.

As to why nobody does fetishwear (or at least it's less popular), I have no idea. In real-life porn, there's not just the expense and it being model specific, but fetishwear /lingerie isn't usually designed to be terribly durable. I know that Jim Weathers' Bondage Cafe (of whom I'm a fan) has frequently had to go through some items of clothing (stocking leotards acquire runs pretty fast, and several models when actively struggling and/or humping hitachi wands aren't helping. Christina Carter wore out the crotch of one O-girl suit that way). So I'm sure that's a factor as well.

But for comics there's no such time or cost constraint or at least not one that I'm aware of.
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