NEW CELESTIN'S COMIC IS HERE! GREAT STORY BY NAJ: GROUP X

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Total votes: 12

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Naj
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Re: NEW CELESTIN'S COMIC IS HERE! GREAT STORY BY NAJ: GROUP

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Snuff isn't a terribly popular topic in general from what I've gathered. To my recall, and don't quote me on this, but there are several very hard legal rules regarding word usage and blood in particular, even if those rules are inconsistently enforced. I don't know the exact rules, but I suspect it has something to do with anti-trafficking laws as well as more puritanical morality laws in certain European countries causing a widespread clampdown on more extreme porn in general.

Basically the presence of blood is a massive no-no, so therefore anything that would cause any amount of blood is likely off the table. You can of course make it a bloodless event (as is often done in piercing scenes) or long after the event itself, and of course can allude to it happening off panel, but I don't believe the actual act itself can be depicted.
logan222
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I can't WAIT for this to come out!! My most anticipated comic of the moment for sure, mainly due to the source material.

Agree there is plenty of bloodless punishment that be done. The crushing isolation hoods and gagging aspects of group XS is a good example. I think that quite a few piercings should be in order as well ;)

Keep up the great work Naj and Celestin!
qq2
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[quote]I can't WAIT for this to come out!! My most anticipated comic of the moment for sure, mainly due to the source material.[/quote]
I know right, and the way the material was handled.

Re-reading the story I noticed that ,the version on BDSM library at least, is rather convoluted and sprawling
Naj has really managed to streamline that while maintaining:
- the intimacy of the first bondage session
- the reluctant yet lack of options surrender with the second scene
- the punishing aspect of both the f@cking and the transport

Celestin for his part has captured that intimacy of the first scene so well.
It makes you believe the characters and the fact that they are willing to do ill rationally advised things

But most of the schoolgirl outfit Celestin has constructed really works.
In the group XS story outfits are often changed and I would be hard pressed to tell you who is wearing what.
But here, to me at least, the outfit itself perfectly encapsulates capture and involuntary submission

Sorry for the fan boy rant everyone, just needed to get it out of my system.

@Naj, any idea when issue two will be released?
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Naj
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"The secret to creativity is hiding your sources."

Well, cat's out of the bag I suppose, but all I will say is that the story won't track exactly with the original for a variety of reasons, not least of which is that the original has no conclusion, at least none that I'm aware of. Like all fetish authors, I'm putting my own personal spin on things, so it'll be what it'll be.

And I'd like to take credit for the schoolgirl outfit since that's MY design. I made a pretty detailed style sheet of it for Celestin to follow, which he did pretty well. Reversed the tag/necktie colors, but that's not that big a deal.

As far as release, I'm hoping to get it done before the end of the month or hopefully early January. Placing word balloons and making SFX is incredibly tedious, and I find myself procrastinating an awful lot.
qq2
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_whoops_ I sort of assumed that the reference was intentional

but I can't emphasize enough how much I like what you did with the story, even in the "setup phase".
(the way you depicted the reluctant surrender and dressing in uniform really ticked all the right boxes for me)
Looking forward to seeing where you'll take it and how the original story will inspire your creation.

As for the praise for the uniform design, consider it lavished onto you.
(in a weird way knowing that makes me even happier as then it's more likely that these fetish outfits will continue to play a crucial part in the story)

I can however imaging that placing word balloons is simultaneously surprisingly difficult, their exact placing affects the flow f how the story is perceived after all
and at the same time super tedious. (An apt seasonal analogy to hosting a family Christmas dinner?)

Good luck, happy holidays and we'll be refreshing this page a lot for news in the coming days then :-)

Cheers,

-QQ2
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Glad to read that qq and logan like the gimp hoods and outfits as much as I do. It's easy to just strip a character naked but, adding apparel to humiliate and dehumanize a person is infinitely more erotic. (To myself anyway)

qq I couldn't help but notice your account is very young. If you haven't already discovered theses comics I thought I'd suggest a few. If you liked Group X.

Naj's very own A tale of Chinese Slavery series is one of my all time favorites.

Kitty Hand's Missing in Shanghai & Objection Overruled are personal favorites.

Arieta's BDSM casino also checks all the boxes for me.
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[q]It's easy to just strip a character naked but, adding apparel to humiliate and dehumanize a person is infinitely more erotic. [/q]
My thought exactly, and thank you for the tips.

I was on the fence for "A tale of Chinese Slavery" but mention of a tit-guillotine and a snuff ending in the comments made me decide against that.
Snuff, implied or depicted, makes me physically ill.
I know that's super weird / inconsistent given what I can get behind and it's even weirder as I don't mind someone getting shot or something for story reasons.
But as soon as it's combined with the erotic act brain conks out.

That said Objection Overruled in particular looks great.
Is there any snuff in there or is it (for lack of a better word) safe?

(and regardless of that, thanks for taking the time to give me advice)

Cheers,

QQ2
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In Objection Overruled there are to two side characters that are murder (off panel) but it is in service to the plot and not sexually fetishised.

I'm not a fan of snuff my self but the tit guillotine scene in ATOCS is done in a very story focused way as Naj said. It really didn't bother me at all when I first saw it. It makes the main characters stakes very high. Part one of the series is actually my favorite. If you can accept that you'll enjoy 1-3. I'd skip part 4 if snuff really bothers you.

None of the other comics I recommended have any snuff.

Thank you for the reply
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So there's a minor detail near the end that I realized needed to be corrected for internal consistency to make sense, so looks like it'll be early next year. Sorry to keep pushing it back, but it should be a pretty quick fix.

Soon!
qq2
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Thanks for keeping us updated Naj.
In the sage words of Shigeru Miyamoto: "A delayed game is eventually good, but a rushed game is forever bad."

Looking forward to the ladies first day at school as well as the mind play between Mistress X and the detective but in the mean time it's good practice for my waiting game. (I'm probably going to need that a lot waiting for the two final chapters.)

Thanks again for the update & cheers,

Qq2
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